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La France et l’Europe ont besoin d’un nouveau souffle

Invité par le “Grand rendez-vous” d’Europe 1, en partenariat avec CNews et Les Echos, Dominique de Villepin s’est livré à l’analyse des défis pour la France et l’Europe, dans un contexte de crises diplomatiques et de divisions nationales aiguës. A l’occasion du centenaire du 11 novembre 1918, l’ancien Premier ministre est revenu sur plusieurs enjeux décisifs, à commencer par la revitalisation du débat démocratique en France et la structuration de la défense européenne face au bouleversement des alliances traditionnelles.

 

Pour visualiser la vidéo entière : https://www.cnews.fr/emission/2018-11-11/le-grand-rendez-vous-du-11112018-799849

 

 

 

 

 

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Exclusive interview with ex French PM de Villepin on CGTN

On 7th November 2018, during the first China international Import Expo, the Chinese channel CGTN broadcasted an exclusive interview with former French Prime ministre Dominique de Villepin. His analysis offers an overview of the current global issues, in particular regarding the trade and financial tensions between China and the USA, the economic difficulties experienced by the emerging countries as well as the decisive context Europe is facing today, some months before the European election in May 2019.

 

 

 

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Discours d’ouverture de l’Université d’été de la CGME à Casablanca

Le 29 septembre 2018, à l’invitation de la Confédération générale des entreprises marocaines (CGME), Dominique de Villepin s’est exprimé sur les principaux enjeux de la mondialisation, en particulier pour le Maroc à l’heure des grands défis du continent africain.

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La Chine et l’Europe peuvent répondre ensemble au repli protectionniste

Dans une tribune de la revue China Watch, co-publiée avec Le Figaro le 28 septembre 2018, Dominique de Villepin revient sur la nécessité, pour les puissances européenne et chinoise, de construire conjointement une alternative politique, diplomatique et commerciale à la tentation unilatéraliste des Etats-Unis.

La Chine et l’Europe peuvent répondre ensemble au repli protectionniste

 Dominique de Villepin, ancien Premier ministre de la France (2005-2017)

Où que nous regardions, le libre-échange vit des jours difficiles. Nous assistons depuis plusieurs mois à l’un des plus violents procès de l’ordre mondial contemporain qui se décline sur plusieurs fronts : critique de la mondialisation culturelle, d’abord, avec le choc des identités ; hantise de la mondialisation politique, ensuite, avec l’enrayement des institutions multilatérales (ONU, OMC, COP21) ; rejet de la mondialisation économique, enfin, dans la tentation protectionniste soufflant d’Outre-Atlantique. Sur ce dernier sujet, nombreux sont les exemples de traités régionaux et internationaux dont les heures sont comptées ou la crédibilité compromise. Les membres de ALENA sont divisés, le CETA tarde à être ratifié, le partenariat transatlantique est au point mort quand le partenariat transpacifique est structurellement affaibli par le retrait américain. Seule l’Afrique s’efforce d’aller de l’avant avec la création d’une zone de libre échange continentale (ZLEC), sous la houlette de l’Union africaine, et la renégociation des accords de Cotonou.

 Ma conviction, c’est que la stabilité de l’économie internationale est entre les mains des seules puissances capables de modérer les soubresauts de l’Amérique devenue imprévisible et impétueuse : parce que l’Union européenne et la Chine pèsent ensemble près d’un tiers du PIB planétaire, leur entente sera décisive pour infléchir la spirale destructrice que nous annoncent les replis successifs du commerce mondial.  La Chine et l’Europe sont soumis à un défi conjoint. Avant l’été, l’augmentation des droits de douane sur l’acier et l’aluminium avaient constitué l’acmé d’une séquence aux accents de guerre commerciale.

 Le 20e Sommet UE-Chine accueilli par Pékin, en juillet dernier, a ainsi permis de mettre en avant plusieurs objectifs communs. Premièrement, la Chine et l’Union européenne souhaitent répondre au risque de ralentissement en consolidant des relations économiques et commerciales qui font du premier le principal partenaire du second avec plus 570 milliards d’euros d’échanges. Deuxièmement, elles entendent réfléchir à des moyens concrets de faire collectivement face aux pressions protectionnistes des Etats-Unis qui, à défaut d’alternative, pourrait durablement assombrir les perspectives de la croissance mondiale. L’enjeu, pour chacune des parties, est d’anticiper un recul des échanges avec le partenaire américain et de compenser à long terme la baisse potentielle des exportations.  Qu’est-ce que cela signifie ? Qu’au-delà d’actions purement judiciaires, à l’instar des plaintes déposées à l’OMC, l’avenir du commerce mondial doit reposer sur des initiatives concertées, combinant la confiance des peuples, l’engagement des Etats et l’implication des sociétés civiles.

 Nous avons besoin de structures et de projets adaptés à ce nouveau contexte. Sur le plan économique, la priorité est de résoudre un certain nombre d’incompréhensions ou d’angoisses mutuelles entre la Chine et l’Europe. Des deux côtés, les craintes sont légitimes. Des deux côtés, aussi, le potentiel des échanges financiers et commerciaux est un puissant levier de croissance. Je pense en particulier au projet de Nouvelle Route de la Soie auquel le Sénat a récemment consacré un rapport détaillé. Par-delà les appréhensions, ce projet d’investissement massif dans les infrastructures et les industries innovantes, telles que l’énergie, le numérique ou la santé, offrent aux entreprises chinoises et européennes l’occasion de travailler ensemble au développement de la zone eurasiatique. La Nouvelle Route de la Soie est une chance inédite d’accroître les flux financiers croisés et de favoriser des projets communs sur des marchés tiers, à commencer par le continent africain dont les besoins ne cesseront d’augmenter.

Cela suppose un pilotage commun, des priorités partagées et des garde-fous contre les risques de dérives et de concurrence.  Mais il nous faut également des lieux de discussion et de décisions collectives, au niveau national et européen, pour fluidifier les relations entre entreprises, s’assurer de la clarté des règles juridiques et nourrir la réflexion économique en matière de réciprocité, d’accès au marché public et de protection de la propriété intellectuelle. Au rang des grands sujets figurent également la stabilité financière sur la base d’un G3 entre les principales banques centrales (BCE, FED et Banque centrale de Chine) ainsi que l’urgence climatique.

 Le calendrier des mois à venir est favorable à l’impulsion d’une nouvelle politique euro-chinoise. A Bruxelles, l’imminence des élections européennes, en mai prochain, impose un débat clair et franc sur le renouvellement des relations économiques avec la Chine. A Pékin, la célébration du quarantième anniversaire des réformes de Deng Xiaoping offre un terrain propice à l’approfondissement de l’ouverture économique, dans un pays si sensible à l’histoire, aux symboles et au dialogue inscrit dans la durée. La Chine doit s’ouvrir davantage aux entreprises et aux investissements. Mais construisons d’abord les conditions d’un dialogue apaisé. 

 En France, nous pouvons nous appuyer sur des jalons majeurs de notre histoire commune, de la reconnaissance pionnière de la République populaire de Chine par le Général de Gaulle, en 1964, à la création par Jacques Chirac du partenariat stratégique global, en 2004. La nouvelle ère promue par le Président Xi Jinping pour son pays doit être l’occasion d’une nouvelle donne au sein des relations franco-chinoises et euro-chinoises dans l’esprit de la première visite à Pékin du Président Macron, en janvier dernier.

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Speech for the International day of Peace in Nanjing

Former PM of France Dominique de Villepin opened the commemorative ceremony for the International Day of Peace 2018 held in Nanjing, capital of Jiangsu Province, on Friday 21st September.

Ladies and gentlemen, dear friends,

It’s an honour to be here today, among people gathered to celebrate the virtue of dialogue. To begin, in this town of Nanjing, I’d like to express my sympathy to those who suffered in a painful time that is not so far away from us.

The past is full of lessons we have to learn and recognize to build up the future. It is true with long history shaped by war, tensions and reconciliation. But it’s also true in recent times with two global confrontations in less than a century.

Let me take this opportunity to pay tribute to the memory of a great servant of peace who passed away one month ago. Kofi ANNAN, the former General Secretary of the United Nations, was a man whose life has been entirely dedicated to justice. I had the chance to be a friend of his and my conviction is that we will need more people like him in the future.

Because never before has the duty of peace been higher than today.

  1. Over the last years, global security has been put under growing pressure

Today, the world is facing three major threats.

First, the threat of unilateralism is breaking up the spirit of consensus: we see that in diplomacy with the US withdrawal from the Iranian deal and the Paris Climate agreement. We also see that in economy with the US pulling out of the TPP and the US-China trade confrontation.

The second threat is aggressive nationalism. It’s the case in the USA, of course, where national interest is mainly based on disdain and hostility towards the rest of the world. But it’s also the case in Europe torn apart by the rise of national populism in countries like Poland and Hungary.

The third threat is the expansion of inequalities all across the world. Economic inequalities have soared worldwide with 1 % of the population concentrating 80 % of global wealth. But inequalities are also expanding regionally and locally with concerns like climate change and social unfairness.

  1. Globalization has created a new world of hopes and dangers

Today, peace is not only about local security. It has become the main global challenge of the time.

We are now living in a world of interconnections where domestic instability is a concern for the whole region. Look at the war in Iraq, Libya and Syria that has destabilized the Middle-East and spread global terrorism. Look at tensions in Venezuela increasing the risk of civil war in South America. Look at the nuclear crisis in North Korea putting security at stake in Japan, South Korea and beyond.

But globalization is also a chance for peace. It means we are all part of the same world with the necessity to promote universal common goods like prosperity, health, free-trade and environmental security. It also means we can be stronger together and combine our forces to build a more diverse, more stable and more sustainable world.

3 / Let me tell you a strong belief: there is no peace without courage and imagination

Peace doesn’t come from nowhere. It is the achievement of a shared commitment.

First of all, peace requires action. Let’s consider the example given by visionary projects opening the path to cooperation: over the last sixty years, Europe has become emblematic of this ideal of peace. But that’s also the ambition of current initiatives like the New Silk Road, launched in 2013 by President XI Jinping, and calling for more openness and mutual understanding.

Peace is also about symbols, rites and dialogue. Today, this forum is a wonderful opportunity to discuss the best tools and experiences of peace: I do believe we all have a role to play, leaders, scholars, entrepreneurs as well as citizens. It is also a strong message sent to the world: peace is not alone. It has its own day, its audience and its proponents.

Thank you very much.

 

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Conference at CEIBS: inventing a new globalization

Dominique de Villepin delivered a conference in Shanghai on 7th September 2018 about the transition of the Sino-US-European relations in the international system. He spoke as Distinguished Professor of the China Europe International Business School (CEIBS) and was, at this occasion, appointed new Chairman of the International Advisory Board of the School.

 

Faced with a series of risks and the increasing possibility of both economic and military confrontation, what can China and the EU do to combat US actions and address an overall weakness in the international community? Dominique de Villepin explains his vision for a new approach to globalisation.

 

The weaknesses of the international scene after Brexit, after Donald Trump being elected President of the United States, after the many crises we are facing, are showing the incredible weakness of the international community. This is a fact. Our world society is weak; fragile. And, there is also a very important fragility of peace. The world can turn to one side or another, depending on how we are going to behave and handle the situation. The challenge today is about saving multilateralism and re-inventing a new globalisation. Globalisation as it is today cannot work for the benefit of humanity if we do not deeply change [our approach].

Assessing the importance of uncertainties 

The first uncertainty is the risk that the West is facing; a risk mainly of fragmentation which has, of course, huge consequences in the international society.

Europe is facing three big risks. The first one is separatism, we see it with Brexit, we see it with Catalonia, we see it with the situation in Spain, Italy – this is an important new factor for Europe.

The second risk is populism, we see it mainly in the eastern part of Europe. Countries like Hungary that are taking the lead, taking advantage of the migration crisis. But this is spreading everywhere in Europe. Countries like France, Germany and Sweden are not [immune to] this new reality.

This is a problem we are all facing in Europe, and it is going to be at the heart of European Parliamentary elections in May 2019.

The third risk for Europe is protectionism. Europe has been the more open space to free trade and to the world in the last decade. So, of course, Europe is hit strongly by the perspective of protectionism that is rising in our world.

Unilateralism is gaining ground in the US [and] has destroyed many of the achievements of diplomacy in the last year. First, it has destroyed the global commitment of the international community to climate change. The US’ signature on the Paris Agreement is gone. Second, it has destroyed many of the peace efforts that have been tried by the international community. We saw that with the decision of the US to withdraw from the Iranian deal, with all the consequences it has for the stability of the Middle East. We know how much the Middle East has known instability in the last year. Let me tell you, we are not at the end of the road. We could see in the next month and years, maybe the fall of Saudi Arabia, maybe the fall of all the Gulf monarchies. This is on the table today. The US diplomacy is making so many mistakes with a strong alliance with Israel, and a strong alliance with Saudi Arabia, which is leaving such a big space for Iran, Russia, Hezbollah and some other allies – such as Turkey – in the region at the risk of confrontation. A new risk of war can happen in this very region.

The same [can be said of the situation in] North Korea, where we have seen a too candid Donald Trump – an innocent Donald Trump – ready to go to Singapore like he was going to solve the matter in just one day. And now, he is finding out that things are not going the way he believed they should go and might be tempted to show force in North Korea. He is going from one [approach] to another in a totally erratic way. There is not one thing more dangerous in the international scene than to have a strong power with an important leadership [figure who is] acting without predictability.

We also see the destruction of achievements in the field of free trade. Donald Trump has left the TPP, has questioned NAFTA, has questioned the TIPP; so there is a complete change from what used to be the rules of the game in the world of free trade. Last, we have to take [into account] the fact that we are a couple of weeks away from the mid-term elections. A lot of things can happen [between now and then] because this is a very important [period of time] for Donald Trump. He must win. If he wins this election, he might have a second term. If he loses the election, then the mechanism of, and the question about, his legitimacy to stay in power – facing the risk of the commission on Russia – will create a very big danger for him and he might face a lot of difficulties in the coming months and years.

So, the West is facing fragmentation and there is a risk of confrontation which is much higher than before. We see the risk in the field of economics. Not only with what is called, in the policy review, the enemies: China and Russia. But also former friends, former allies: Canada, Europe, Korea. All of these countries are now seen as potential dangers for the US. Economic confrontation is the new rule between Europe and the US, but also between the US and China. You know how much pressure Donald Trump has put on trade in order to get some return.

But, this battle on free trade is hiding another battle, which is much more important: the technological confrontation. This is the key for the US. Why? Everybody knows that the big question is: within how many years will China be number one in the world? Five years, 10 years, 15 years. The only objective of US diplomacy is to try to make it later, or even to make it impossible. This is the only logic behind US politics today.

[The goal is to] avoid this humiliation of the rise of China and the US as a descending power. Graham Allison put it very clearly, calling this situation the Thucydides Trap. [It has occurred] over 16 times in world history in the last 500 years. Twelve times, we have seen a rising power confronting a descending power; 12 times this ended with war.

The question is how are we going to get out of such a mess? The only way for the US to avoid the rise of China, or to stop it, is to put a strong hand on technology. That is why Made in China 2025 was such an issue for them. That is why the US’ questioning of free trade is such an issue. Because if they can stop this progress of China in technology, digital, artificial intelligence – even if they have to pay with a cyber war – they will gain at least some time and maintain US power.

We should also know that the possibility of a military confrontation is not to be completely [discounted]. [In terms of] conventional war, the capacities are bigger than ever. Every year the budget of the US is 600 billion dollars, compared to China’s 230 billion and Europe’s 180 billion.

And of course, the nuclear risk should also not be [ignored]. There is a risk of confrontation through the Iranian crisis, and a risk of confrontation in the North Korean crisis. Donald Trump’s dissatisfaction over the deal on Iran, as well as the changing mood on North Korea, could make the United States use this situation as an opportunity to go for a deep crisis and take advantage [of that]. Because their military [advantage] is still strong.

China’s role

Faced with this situation, these uncertainties, China has a major responsibility because it can be a pole of stability. The rise of China has already profoundly transformed global governance. In less than 50 years, we have gone from the western order to a multilateral order because of the rise of China. We see China’s hard power in the country’s capacity for innovation. When you look at the tech companies – Tencent, Baidu, Alibaba, JD.com – there is a capacity in this country, which is the only one that can [compete with] the capacity of the US. The battle for being number one is more and more important.

And of course, [there is also a battle underway] in soft power. This is going to be one of the most important challenges for China. [It will involve issues such as] how China is going to deal with increasing influence in the art world, in the cultural world, in the academic world. These are places where, because of the foundations, because of the think tanks, because of Hollywood, because of a whole system, the US has acquired a strong capacity since World War II. And in this sector of soft power, China needs to be more influential and more creative. And that is where, with Europe, a very strong partnership can be created.

China has more influence, but also more responsibility. Today China is among the five members of the Security Council. In terms of economic and financial commitment, we all know the capacities and the responsibilities of China. In 30 years, the GDP of China has grown 30 times, so that shows the country’s progress and importance in the world economy. The same in climatic responsibility: one of the most amazing achievements made by China has been the hard work [done in fighting] climate change and pollution, and this has been really a revolution in this country in the last five, ten years.

But, there is another reality we should face. China cannot succeed alone. China needs new frames of cooperation. China needs new markets, new partners. Very few people know how influential China is today in Africa, or in South America. Even the US do not know the extent of China’s influence in countries like Venezuela, Peru, Argentina. The strength of China is rising every day in those countries, and it is an absolute need for China to gain influence around the world.

Of course, there are difficulties. China’s global debt is a big issue. Its total global debt is 30 trillion dollars, and its corporate debt is 160 percent of GDP. This is too much; this is a very important weakness for the country that needs to be addressed.

The second factor that has to be addressed is the question of security. To deal with the growing number of crises in the world, China has chosen, as is its right, to give priority to a multilateral treatment of crises. But, China can get more involved in order to change the trend of some of these crises, for example the Syrian crisis. Whatever the solution in North Korea, I think China is key; we need China to get more involved. I believe also that in global challenges like migration and climate change, China’s role, its responsibility, is key.

The rules have changed

I believe that the current trend in the US is a long-term one. Some naïve people believe that when Trump is out of office, everything will be settled. There will be no more problems with the US and we will be back on track like before. This is a big mistake. The agenda of the US is not going to change. Because, the agenda of the US is to face the rise of China, and the rise of China will keep [on going].

We have to understand that the choice that has made Donald Trump president may look stupid, but it is not stupid. Donald Trump believes the post-Second World War institutions, the rules of post-Second World War society, the world community that the global order has created in the last 60 years, is not aligned with the interests of the United States. [There is] the belief, faced with the rise of China, that anyone that competes with the US – whether it is China, Europe, Canada, Mexico – is an enemy of national security. This is something very new in the mentality of the US. Why [has this new thinking emerged]? Because the best ally of the US today – and this is a key point – is chaos.

We Europeans and you, the Chinese, we believe in institutions, we believe in rules, we believe in multilateral order. The US today, they take a strong advantage in disruption – in chaos. The more there are uncertainties, the more there are crises, the more they can triangulate – play one against another. Divide to be able to dominate. This is a new law in the international community, and this is not going to change.

So, in this context, the [important issue] is how China and Europe can unify their forces in order to create a new global order based on multilateralism. This is the challenge. We need a common vision of peace and of prosperity. We have based our friendship on history. France was the first country to have diplomatic relations with China in 1964 because of General de Gaulle, and it has been the same for most of the European countries. We are today strong partners, not only in trying to find peace in the world but also for defending the world order of free trade. We should reinforce [this friendship], and we have a fantastic opportunity which should not be missed: the strategy of President Xi Jinping launching, in 2013, One Belt One Road.

I believe this strategy is a very important vision. Because for the first time we see a new tool, a new possibility in world diplomacy, which is a diplomacy of projects. Not bilateral diplomacy, not multilateral diplomacy, but a project where everyone can participate and utilise their strengths for the same goal. The goal is how to develop some countries, that are too weak today, through new infrastructure with the help of Europe, China, any country that wants to participate to create more stability. This is the best way to fight against terrorism; the best way to fight against [radical] Islamism and to give hope to millions of people who are going to be part of a new prosperity which is going to open new markets. This is not only an economic approach, it is a political approach, it is a strategic approach, and it is a cultural approach. [It is] betting on the fact that when states know each other better, they should live in peace with one another.

So, I believe we should make it a success. Of course, we know that there are difficulties, Europe today is scared by the project. Because, they believe this project is too much of a Chinese project [geared] toward China’s benefit; [that it is] too much in the [interest] of Chinese technology and Chinese products. So we should make it a double track project where everyone can be in a win-win situation, and not in a zero-sum game like the US wants it to be. It has to be for the [benefit] of both. So, it has to be supported both ways. The New Silk Road should be supported at the origin in China, and very strongly in Europe. Because we need to learn to work together more and we need to create more trust with one another.

The second point, in making Europe and China a cornerstone of world stability, is we need to reinforce what Donald Trump doesn’t want: our institutions, our capabilities, our rules, in order to work more efficiently together. I personally believe that we need more economic and financial coordination. I hope in the next years, between France and China for example, we will have a public office for investment between Europe and China. We need such a public office for investment in order to make sure that any investment made from Europe in China, and China in Europe is going to be for the benefit of everyone.

We have seen in the past years, too many Chinese private investors coming to Europe with fake deals. Promises but no money or strategy to buy a company, to sell the assets of the company and then to go back in Shanghai in order to make more money. We need to secure the reality of these investments, and it is in the interest of both parties to control the credibility of such strategy. I think we also need some kind of a permanent secretariat for the New Silk Road based here in Beijing, but also in Brussels, that could work together in order to concretely appreciate the quality and capacity of each project. I think that could be a way to import a new perspective for the One Belt One Road.

Second, we need more financial coordination, and I believe in this [regard], it should be very important to have more coordination between the [People’s Bank of China] and the European Central Bank. Maybe, if we are successful in better coordinating the euro and the yuan, then we can extend it to a G3 with the Federal Reserve Bank. But we have to show the way for more coordination. I believe if we show the way, the US will then be willing to be on board. If we start by saying, ‘okay let us have a G3 right now’, the US will say no and then nothing is going to happen. The same for political and diplomatic coordination. (Because it is so difficult to have such coordination in the G7) we need a political G4 with Paris, Berlin, Moscow, and Beijing. This is of course going to be seen as a provocation in Washington, but if we start working together to make progress on some crises, on some [challenge], that will be a strong incentive for the US to be back on track with dialogue, on coordination.

For example, Emmanuel Macron has proposed a global pact for the environment, this could also be an initiative that we could take together in order to give credibility to our efforts facing climate change. But, we should not wait for the US to change [its] mood because I do not think they will. We should create a situation in which we choose movement, initiative, dynamism, trust between us in order to change the mindset of the world.

At this very moment, it could be very damaging for the international community to wait too long and to act in a too cautious way. We need to take risks because the world is in great danger.”

This is an edited transcript of a speech given to Chinese academics at a September 7 event in Shanghai. 

Dominique de Villepin is Distinguished Professor & Chairman of the International Advisory Board at China Europe International Business School.

 

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Hommage à Kofi Annan

Kofi Annan était idéaliste et pragmatique à la fois

Dans les pages du JDD, Dominique de Villepin rend hommage à Kofi Annan, ancien Secrétaire général des Nations Unies (1997-2006), décédé le 18 août dernier. Ministre des Affaires étrangères au moment de la crise irakienne, Dominique de Villepin se souvient d’un homme volontaire, déterminé et exigeant dès lors qu’il s’agissait de promouvoir et de construire la paix.

Kofi Annan, c’était une curieuse alchimie entre un idéal de paix, de justice, de défense du multilatéralisme, des Nations unies qu’il portait plus fortement que n’importe lequel de ses prédécesseurs. Et en même temps, la détermination, le pragmatisme dans l’approche de chacun des problèmes auxquels il était confronté qui le conduisait à bousculer le système international et à refuser d’accepter le système des tout-puissants. Kofi Annan a été précurseur dans la lutte contre le terrorisme, après le 11-Septembre 2001. On avait ensemble, à un moment où la France était présidente du Conseil de sécurité, en janvier 2003, décidé d’organiser un sommet sur le terrorisme. Il s’est insurgé contre la vision réductrice d’une « guerre » contre le terrorisme. On ne peut pas régler par la force seule les grands problèmes du monde.

Dans la crise irakienne de 2003, Kofi Annan a essayé de trouver le meilleur compromis entre les Américains et la France. Je sentais une volonté d’aller le plus loin possible dans la responsabilité des Nations unies, multilatérale. Il était directement engagé dans la définition de cette méthode d’envoyer des inspecteurs sur le terrain, pour y traquer les armes de destruction massive. Il ne pouvait accepter que les États-Unis décrètent seuls que cela ne fonctionnait pas. Il était véritablement désireux d’aller au bout pour montrer que la communauté internationale n’était pas acculée à la guerre dès lors qu’elle n’était pas nécessaire. Sur ce point, il avait une très grande unité de vue avec Jacques Chirac. Après mon discours le 14 février 2003, alors que le Conseil de sécurité applaudissait, il s’est penché vers moi et m’a dit « Tu sais, ça n’est jamais arrivé ». Il avait une très haute idée de la France et de la responsabilité qui était la sienne.

Kofi Annan voulait aller le plus loin possible dans l’engagement onusien. Après ce qu’il avait vécu comme étant l’impuissance de l’ONU à Srebrenica en Bosnie puis au Rwanda et au Darfour, il ne pouvait pas accepter de rester les bras croisés face à de tels drames. C’était quelqu’un qui s’engageait, porteur d’un idéal, pas un idéal contemplatif mais celui d’un homme d’action.

Plus tard, lors de l’intervention militaire en Libye en 2011 et l’invocation de la responsabilité de protéger, je me suis retrouvé sur la même position que Kofi Annan. Dès lors qu’on sortait du cadre de cette résolution, il fallait clairement marquer son refus et il l’a fait. Cette intervention militaire a sans doute été une profonde erreur qui a, en partie, expliqué l’impuissance des Nations unies dans la crise syrienne.

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Face aux Etats-Unis, l’Europe ne doit pas baisser la tête

Invité le 12 juillet dernier à l’émission de Caroline Roux, les 4 Vérités, Dominique de Villepin s’est exprimé sur la nécessité pour l’Union européenne de réaffirmer son indépendance au moment même où se tenait le sommet de l’OTAN à Bruxelles. A l’impératif d’unité entre les Etats membres doit s’ajouter l’exigence d’ouverture et d’initiative, aux côtés de la Chine et de la Russie, face aux menaces de Donald Trump.

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“La question de l’existence même de l’Europe est posée.”

Reçu par Nicolas Demorand sur France Inter, Dominique de Villepin appelle la France à se transformer en transformant l’Europe afin de prendre toute la mesure des bouleversements du monde dans lequel nous entrons, où d’anciennes alliances semblent durablement abîmées, où la guerre est à nos frontières, où un certain sens de la gravité doit permettre de dépasser les polémiques pour apporter des solutions.

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“Entre l’UE et la Tunisie, on peut assister à une grande histoire !”

L’ancien Premier ministre français Dominique de Villepin a accordé, le vendredi 22 juin 2018, une interview à la journaliste Myriam Belkadhi durant laquelle il a mis en exergue la réussite de l’expérience de transition démocratique tunisienne.

« Depuis 55 ans la Tunisie, a toujours montré un modèle original. La constitution, l’enseignement généralisé, et là on parle de l’égalité successorale. C’est une avancée considérable et révolutionnaire. Cependant, on constate des difficultés économiques, malgré l’amélioration de certains indices, à l’instar du tourisme et de l’agriculture, cela reste insuffisant. Ainsi, nous avons des défis communs que nous devons relever. La coopération avec la Tunisie est nécessaire », a-t-il dit.

Et d’ajouter : « La Tunisie bénéficie de l’attention des pays occidentaux, grâce à son travail et sa détermination. Ça reste, aussi insuffisant. La coopération avec l’Union européenne doit s’accélérer davantage afin de garantir plus d’efficacité. Entre l’Union européenne et la Tunisie, on peut assister à une grande histoire dans la période à venir ».

Par ailleurs, il est revenu sur la crise libyenne, soulignant son impact direct sur la Tunisie. « Cependant, ça lui a permis de consolider ses acquis, notamment, par rapport à l’action au niveau des frontières ainsi que dans la lutte contre le terrorisme ».

Revenant sur la migration clandestine, il a estimé qu’il s’agit d’un véritable drame, affirmant qu’il faut trouver les bonnes solutions et un accord gagnant-gagnant. Il faut imaginer des solutions nouvelles et respectueuses. « Il y a une véritable souffrance chez les jeunes, nous devons donc travailler et agir ensemble. Capitalisons sur ce qui marche et qui marchera toujours », assure M. de Villepin. Par ailleurs, il a considéré que la Tunisie a la chance d’entretenir de bons rapports avec les pays du Maghreb, considérant que l’ouverture vers le Maghreb et l’Afrique demeure très importante pour la Tunisie. D’autre part, il a indiqué que la lutte contre le terrorisme nécessite une véritable solidarité, puisqu’actuellement, aucun pays ne peut combattre, à lui seul, ce fléau. « Le terrorisme trouve sa place au cœur des sociétés fragilisées. Il est nécessaire de conjuguer les efforts et de mettre en place une politique adaptée afin de l’éradiquer ».